PERRY: The Denver Post stumbles, but sneering will land you on your own face

Sneer all you want about the misfortunes of the Denver Post and the newspaper industry. But I promise you that without it, Denver, and Aurora, and all of Colorado, will be a far lesser place than it is.

So all the local social media minions have been twitter-pated with news that The Denver Post is facing yet another gouging of the newsroom.

Locals have been gleefully taking shots at Colorado’s largest albeit shrinking newspaper, mostly saying that the news product they produce is the cause of their ailing circulation and financial health. That’s just bullshit, folks.

“Twenty years ago, Denver had two thriving dailies. Today, the monopoly incumbent is on life support. Whatup?” said former state Sen. Shawn Mitchell on Friday via his ever-popular Facebook page of right-wing rants. Mitchell, who is one of the most clever, persistent and amusingly agitating voices of Colorado’s conservatives, was reacting to news this week that the Post would lay off another 20 people from its news operations through buyouts — this after years of peeling off writers, photographers, artists and editors like leaves on an artichoke. And now we come to the heart of that matter.

A flood of Mitchell’s fans/friends/minions piled on the insults, saying that the Post has undone itself.

Tim Ziegler said: “Bias, irresponsible reporting, no trust in the news accuracy, new technology. All have played a part.”

Not really.

Steve Johnson “It’s like a supermarket tabloid”

Not even close.

Shawn Miller: “People not willing to overpay for yesterday’s news or advertising. Print media failed to adjust to the new market created by the internet … up next television stations and news. Newspapers could have made themselves relevant by being more in touch with neighborhoods and individual towns rather than trying national or even city wide reports.”

Way wrong. Essentially, it was us, not Al Gore, who invented the Intertubes. It was the media that jumped in and gave you all a reason to come, long before there were shopping, video, games, Google, eBay and even porn. You’re right, though, that how we handled those early days has led to our current woes.

Susy Johnson: “There is an actual newspaper here? Wow, I thought the Denver Democrat Compost had been bought by the Colorado Democrat Party!”

That’s the bulk of what’s floating around the intertubes about the whole thing. Both the right and the left accuse the Post of pandering to “the enemy” and therefore becoming nothing but what we all need to wrap fish, line litter boxes and start campfires, as so many authoritatively pointed out.

Most of you really don’t have a clue what’s happened.

Newspapers primarily hung themselves by giving away their content online 20 years ago, giving people a reason to go out and buy a 14K baud modem. We are now unable to put the genie back in the bottle. So just where do you think all those free online stories come from? Elves? The fruits of real journalists’ labors are freely given and stolen away by you and our pseudo-colleagues. Edu-tainment and s-newz sites, like HuffPo, Yahoo, Buzzfeed, Google and millions of others survive on blood and tears spilled by real journalists at real newsrooms costing real dollars, just like at the Post.

As to advertising, we totally messed up as an industry thinking that we could replicate the advertising business model of print to our online product. For a lot of reasons, even the so-called experts don’t completely understand, it didn’t work. But it’s not because the Post and every other legitimate newspaper in the country doesn’t pump out an ocean of content you want, you need and you talk about every single day. If you don’t believe that, you’re stupid as well as naive. The financial woes of the Post and every other newspaper came from the decisions of bean counters, not the headline writers.

So now the Post, like so many large newspaper companies, comes forward with very bad news, and tries to put some kind of positive spin on it, with the editor saying the paper is just going to have to put out shorter, punchier stories. As if a glut of talent prevented that until now. It’s crap. I know it. They know it. You know it. It’s sad, because stuff you really, really do care about, even if you don’t care to take the time to read about it, won’t get covered. And what do you think happens to issues that don’t get public scrutiny? Exactly.

As for the Post being the darling of Colorado liberals, just ask. Ask how many subscribers cancelled when the Post endorsed Cory Gardner — and have not and will not come back. Just ask about the Post endorsements of Ken Buck, both Coffmans and a variety of Colorado Springs whack jobs. Ask liberals what they think about how the Post covers their agenda. About fracking. About Obamacare and climate change. I think you’ll be surprised.

And, clearly, conservatives, too, feel like the Post has an agenda, and it’s not theirs. It’s all tin-foil and conspiracy-theory theatrics, folks. It’s just not true, at least not like you imagine it. Real journalists work real hard every single day to ask these questions every time they file a story: No. 1: Is it accurate? No. 2: Is it fair? No. 3: Is it an honest attempt to tell what’s happening and what’s at stake? Real journalists really do go through that every day. I can guarantee you, pseudo-journalists and PR types have other priorities, such as “does this convey the message that I, or my bosses/leaders/shareholders/officers, etc., want to convey?”

But here’s the most important thing. What most of you really don’t realize is that the Denver Post is not a single thing, but a sum of its parts. And it’s made up of some of the most ethical, talented, hard-working and determined journalists in the business. THEY are the Denver Post, and they’re liberal, conservative, none and all of the above. Slam journalism all you want — it’s really OK. We get it. It comes with the job. We hear you. And despite what you think, we react to criticism and praise because that’s who we are — without a real working press, you would be living in a place like Russia or Iran. No kidding. No freaking kidding. Sneer all you want, what we do is that vital, because almost all of you don’t have the time, the interest nor the ability to ferret out mundane crap and deep shit alike. And if you think you’ll get the straight story straight from the horses’ asses in government, at Monsanto, at Chrysler, at Blue Bell, you are oh, oh, oh so very wrong. And if you think TV news has the ability to pick up the slack, you are even more wrong.

So sneer all you want about the misfortunes of the Post and our industry. But I promise you that without it, Denver, and Aurora, and all of Colorado, will be a far lesser place than it is. I very often don’t agree with many news and non-news decisions the Post makes, but I have no hesitation in insisting that the mission and product of the Denver Post —  and the Colorado Springs Gazette, and the Durango Herald and the Aurora Sentinel — is critical to the region’s well-being and success. In any way you can, you should support the Post and other media, and tell them what you like and hate. But if you dismiss them, and all of us, you dismiss the only real defense society has against everything you spend so much time complaining about — that matters.

  • ColoradoMan

    The Post endorsed Gardner, Buck, and the Coffmans because it knew they would win and endorsements in the other direction would have no impact. Those endorsements gave it the appearance of being in touch with Coloradans instead of the Leftist tool that it really is.

    • TruthBeDarned

      Ahhh, the troll who misses the forest for the trees. ColoradoMan, read the story one more time and think. Then comment. I realize I probably ask too much.

      • ColoradoMan

        Ah, the inability to understand anyone else’s point.

  • Sally Domingues

    Well said. — I am the wife of one of the 30+-year veterans who was handed a buy out packet Thursday. He’s done it all, covered high school and city rec sports through pros, then was a sports editor, then news editor and has worked in page design for almost 14 years in Colorado. He worked nights, got himself downtown in all types of weather, stayed overnight a couple times when he was snowed in meeting deadlines. He missed his kids’ band concerts, taekwondo promotions, and hundreds of family dinners working nights, weekends and holidays. He survived all those rounds of layoffs, lost his best buddies at work, scrambled to learn new systems and still put out Pulitzer Prize winning, frequent Newseum recommended pages for us all to toss in the trash.

    • Vince Lovato

      Your hubby sounds like me. Five years ago I escaped bug metros to work at thriving weeklies. Never had so much fun. The pay is lower but the lifestyle is no contest. But you are right. Our industry eats its own and spits them out.

  • Tex Arcane

    I was born and raised with print, and trained to write for print at J-school, and since 1992, I have been online. I can say with a fair amount of authority (I can provide credentials) that you have blown it. Print, like it or not (and I will never not love it) is dead. Simply put, advertisers don’t like it. Classified ads find better offerings online. You must change your game plan, or you will die. And if you choose to die, then you should die.

    • Andy Perdue

      Tex, you are absolutely correct. Newspapers blew it.

    • Vince Lovato

      There is only one problem with your statement. Advertising in print is still about 9 times more effective than advertising online. And that’s a big problem because the cheaper, faster way to get the news out is online but no one wants to wade through ads when they are surfing. I’ve been through this transition and I’m in my 50s and I have seen too many publishers and editors, especially at metros, try and use pre-internet techniques instead of realizing what readers really want and can’t get. When the L.A. Times or the Post fill pages with yesterday’s news and continue to believe neighborhood news is “beneath them” they will continue to falter and die off. And maybe that’s a good thing. I’ve attended Google, Facebook and Yahoo seminars over the last five years and it is very clear to them, and me, why newspapers, especially metros, are committing suicide. And, BTW, local community newspapers are thriving because they are doing what people really want: covering local news they can’t get anywhere else.

  • Wes

    Survival of the fittest. People can find their own news and not be spoon fed what some dinosaur journalist thinks is news. Find a way to be relevant in the news cycle or get out of the way.

    • Eric Ruth

      And just where are they going to find it, Wes?

    • Andy Perdue

      Who will cover your school board? Your city council? Your state legislature? Who is going to dig through police records? File FOIA requests? Tell you when a sex offender moves into your neighborhood? HuffPost? Rumors on Facebook? Snopes?

      • Frank2525

        While still in military service, I was Denver Post distributor in Lamar, CO, while working on Satellite Terminal south of Lamar, on highway 287 next to AT&T site. I hired the carriers, and placed papers in sales boxes around town, and distributed out to rural stores on weekends. All the rural carriers came to my residence on weekends to get Sunday papers to distribute , while receiving regular copies in mail during the week. After retiring, moving back to Aurora home, I had subscription to both Post and News, since I was volunteering for Veterans Organizations and needed to know what state and federal legislators was doing. When the Rocky closed, I quit buying any newspapers since I attended meetings at State Capitol, and veterans meetings, and heard the news-facts directly from the folks making the news. I told Dave Perry then, the Sentinel was what I paid for it. NOTHING. I can selectively search any item on net, and get current info, read the text of the speaker at any level. And I don’t have to pay except to my server – provider. I receive veteran magazines, Newsmax, New Standard, and other subscriptions directly from the state and federal legislators on my computer, to read, use, print copy. And I get CORRECT SPELLING OF NAMES, and do not have to put up with gossip. Newspapers now are rabidly gossip hounds, running from one person to next, telling them what someone said, then asking how that makes them feel. And they plant more false info on line, that is not true, or researched that causes demonstrations by those who have agendas. Hence dead police officers, killed while eating lunch or sitting in police vehicle at traffic light, or doing surveillance. MSM (TV) is also guilty of putting liars in front of camera or microphones, who lie, and then are found to be lies when case actually get into court room. Reporters report what the editor allows them to report. No more or less.

        • Vince Lovato

          Frank, you make the definitive point here: We have become a niche society. Full-service newspapers are faced now with trying to please everyone – or – not pissing off anyone. When that happens, we get Gilligan’s Island. You have found sources that are specific to your needs and give you information that makes your life and job easier to do. That’s why you don’t need the paper anymore. Plus, if you’re like me, I get a new headline on my smart phone every few minutes for free.

          • Frank2525

            Thank you for comment. I should also add, I find Colorado Statesman the most accurate, complete, and with coverage of both sides of issues on local level. They even get the names right.

        • Paddie McGirk

          You can view the extensive coverage of the Mr./Ms. Bruce Jenner coverage and still say this about American print media?

          • Frank2525

            Where in any of my postings did you find that I viewed anything about Bruce Jenner? I did not watch him when he was swimming, let alone after he became a celebrity in his own mind. I don’t watch the occupant in the White House either. I do read the text, or summary of his latest rants and the effect they have on USA citizens, and even worse in other countries who used to be close allies. I don’t trust him, so why should any of those leaders? Gossip reporters in Hollywood used to write stuff like that, and I did not read that either. I am not following the trial of Holmes in Aurora, CO theatre shooting either. And that happened within a mile of my house. Grandson wanted to go to movie that night of Batman, but I bought the DVD the next week and gave it to him. Don’t know if he has watched it yet, but he is thankful he was not in theatre that night. Age 19 now. Too bad Holmes did not stay in California, where he would not have stood out.

          • Paddie McGirk

            Mr. Jenner was not a swimmer. He was a saxophonist. You should get out more.

          • Frank2525

            Think Kylie Jenner gets more notice of saxophone, but fat lip brings more comments. Bruce was a swimmer for those interested in such activities. I don’t have time for such antics, and no reason to get out more with all the druggies, alcoholics, punks shooting up the police, and so many zonked out and show it by driving through store walls, over people on sidewalks, going wrong way on highways, and just plain committing suicide in so many different ways. Makes folks wonder just who the insane, and who is running asylum?

          • VJ Cole

            Where did you get the idea that Bruce Jenner was a swimmer? His event was that most grueling of Olympic sports, the decathalon.

          • Frank2525

            Somehow, you don’t see what I am saying. I don’t really care one way or the other. Bruce Jenner was never hero to me, no matter what he did or did not do. Only saw glimpse of him-her-it, whatever but he never fit into my watching or caring life. As the old Chinese statement, which military adopted: Not in my rice bowl, then, or now. And I for dam sure am not getting interested now. That is for the 2% of our population, who judge themselves and all others on their sexuality. There is a time in life, when sex becomes a chore. There are ever so much more important things in life, and I have always known who and what I was, though some folks tried to hold that down in early life. ————-Whole different world, career, and life work came into view with Korean conflict, drafted and enlisted same day in 1950, and aptitude tests in basic, led to Sergeant counseling me: “Private, you have a brain, use it”. Best words I had heard, though I thought life was okay until then. After 26 years of steadily increasing responsibility, authority, and managing complex, expensive programs, whether some one can play a horn, is not too high on my radar screen.

          • Frank2525

            Additional note: If his name is Gabriel, then playing a horn might be more in focus.

          • VJ Cole

            I see exactly what you’re saying. You do not now, nor have you ever, seen Bruce Jenner as a hero. That’s your opinion, and you’re entitled to both hold and express it, without regard to what anyone else thinks. All I’M saying is that if you’re going to be critical of a person, at least have your facts straight about the person and don’t show disrespect by saying things that aren’t true.

          • Frank2525

            I don’t see where I was critical of him. And you introduced his name in initial reply to my comment on something else entirely. There are a lot of other folks reported on in the gossip sections (90%) of reporting, I never approved of, and never mention their name. Such as those women who want us to recognize their brains on MSM talk shows, dye their hair blond, wear clothing that displays more of the upper part of their body, and the lower parts than I ever wanted to see, even in my youth. But you have not seen me express that anywhere before. And with 3 or more together (male and female, or all same) talking at same time, in New Yorker style. I turn those off. I am not a prude, but I don’t wallow in that stuff, and never did. Considered myself a very normal, American male, who helped wife with our 3 children, in washing clothes, hanging diapers before paper ones were available, and since my spouse was city girl, and I was eldest of 5 siblings, I could cook, sew, iron clothes, even operated electric mangle to iron sheets and pillow cases, when electric was installed to outlet box, in front yard of our farm. Father working 16 hours, sleeping in truck 8 hours, then work 16 more, to pay off our farm in 1940s. I wired the house, barn, sheds, stringing the wire (2 strands) bare bulbs, hanging in middle of rooms. Before that I filled the lanterns, lamps, and cleaned the globes, filled reservoir on side of kitchen stove to have hot water. Also did my farm chores that all families did in those days. So don’t get upset if the gossip and displays on television these days do not titillate me. My life has spanned many changes. First phone in house was on the wall, with hand ringer on side. As a teenager, I did not use phone since everyone listened in, and though I was not misbehaving, no reason to let gossips know that. In military, I helped engineers in satellite-computer-phones to talk world wide, and establish World Wide Command and Control Systems. In fact, I ordered the U.S.S. Longlines ship out of Philippines before Christmas in 1973, to leave harbor and sail to Mariana Straits, recover the severed ocean cable (both ends) and repair, by encrypted phone -computer. Captain had tied up for holidays, and gave crew 20 day vacation. My 2nd order was to sail with minimum ship crew that was safe, and all crew was to be recalled, and would be ferried to ship by fastest means, while under way. —–Also was NCOIC on duty, when POWs came out of Vietnam. Once plane was airborne and out of Vietnamese land, we connected each individual POW with separate connection TO WHOMEVER THAT INDIVIDUAL POW WANTED TO TALK TO, within a 5 minute time period, with Flash Precedence. Meaning no matter who had that circuit before, was interrupted to take our call from the POW. I have always been proud of our crew with these missions, and there was 4 other shifts, just as dedicated. My last management job was installing TACSATCOM as MSgt (E&) on Oahu, for Presidential support. Not dumping on you. Just explaining why I am not that enthused with television these days, and their gossiping ways. I would happy to go back to 9 to 11 television, with test patterns on for couple hours, then shut down. I don’t need 24/7/365 viewing.

      • cosmicharlie1970 .

        We’ll somehow muddle our way through.

    • John Davidson

      No, Wes. It’s survival of he cheapest. And good luck finding your own news on all of those click-bait sites with the depth of a thimble.
      .

    • into_the_lens

      “People can find their own news”
      That is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.
      Because anybody can create it, right?
      Enjoy your citizen journalism, Wes. Who needs training in accuracy, fairness, balance, digging, or protecting sources, after all.

      • Robert Smith

        Why can’t I like this? Into that is what is most disturbing about these comments. People don’t even GET that they are running into burning building. Just glad they didn’t have to pay the price of admission.

        If I could like your post I would…so instead I will….

  • David Edwards

    I was definitely disappointed with the Post’s endorsements of Gardner and Coffman, but I still have my subscription because a) good journalism is not the same thing as editorial content, and b) no one does local and regional news like newspapers, and if they don’t do it, it won’t get done. That’s important to a free society, and I’m willing to spend some money to support that. I just hope it doesn’t turn into a situation where the big money advertisers dictate things behind the scenes. American needs real journalists and journalism. When it’s all Fox News, we’ve lost.

    • Jawaid Bazyar

      You’re really bitter about the fact there there are still a handful of media organizations leftists haven’t taken over yet, out of the *hundreds* you have.

      • Markos_Anderson

        Indeed.

        Liberals complaining about Fox News are like Democrats in the 1960s complaining about allowing several black students into universities.

        • “…Democrats in the 1960s complaining about allowing several black students into universities.”

          Or as those Democrats call themselves today, “Republicans.”

          • Markos_Anderson

            Jimmy Carter is a Republican?

            The Clintons are Republicans?

    • David Edwards

      Excuse me? Typical right-wing trolls with reading comprehension problems. I suppose you’re among those who find that facts have a liberal bias. Get a life.

    • gofastgo

      You’re problem is what’s wrong, as long as the media supports your candidates, you’re on board, these both happen to be better for the job and both from the GOP. You get so used to hearing praise for liberals, you can’t stand to hear a news outlet support a Republican.

      • moorelogic

        Or maybe a paper that is supposed to report objective news should NOT be in the business of endorsing ANY politicians…

        • coryfrye

          Perhaps you’re unaware that newspapers have done this since the dawn of print.

          • VictorErimita

            Perhaps you’re unaware that an ever fewer number of people value a “newspaper” that tells them how they should think, whether through endorsements, editorials or “news” stories selected, written and edited to advance a version of what the paper thinks people should think.

          • coryfrye

            Perhaps you’re unaware that you’re spouting nonsense.

      • David Edwards

        I continue to be amazed that no one who’s replied to my comment seems to have read it. I said I was “disappointed with the Post’s endorsements”, that means I disagreed with them and expected them to do otherwise. BUT, I said I still kept my subscription because I value the role that good journalism plays, in fact MUST play, in our society. What is it that these conservative commenters can’t wrap their heads around? Since they apparently hate everything and everyone who is “Liberal”, even though I doubt they really understand what that means, they assume they everyone is as intolerant of other views as they are. Read the comment again. I venture to say that I’m not the one who is “bitter” or who “can’t stand” to hear a view other than my own. Projection much?

  • disqus_Nc13bJ8iDr

    I stopped my Post subscription because: 1. print got so small my aging eyes struggled reading the dam thing 2. The comics got so small you couldn’t see them and my favorites kept disappearing 3. It was really uncomfortable to hold in its new size – should have gone tabloid if they wanted to shrink it (remember the Post’s derision of RMN as “that little paper”. I did NOT leave for their electronic edition which did and still sucks. Can’t resize their on-line fonts and it frequently locks up my droid tablet. Note I am very happy with the Sentinel on-line version. But I’ve switched my primary news sources as online 1. USA Today and 2. CNN. and I watch FOX news to get “the other side” perspective. The Post just failed to accommodate older people with tis shrinking format., and bloating pricing.

    Oh and prices went nutso. My last yearly was near $170!! And neighbor reports her recent Help Wanted ad was near $400!

    • Eric Ruth

      So what is a fair price for preserving your freedom, Disqus?

      • bellaparola

        Yeah, that’s a good way to win friends and influence people. I agree that newspapers are important, but when you’re already collapsing, that kind of false arrogance really doesn’t help.

        • coryfrye

          Arrogance swings on both sides, baby.

      • Jawaid Bazyar

        Were newspapers to actually fight for my freedom, instead of selling it to left-wing politicians, you might have said something really neat here!

        As it is, you’re merely pretentious and self-serving.

        • coryfrye

          Not sure which is more pretentious: that or assuming that a newspaper’s failing because it doesn’t ascribe to your ideology, because I guess you represent the pulse of the universe.

  • ORHS73

    Word.

  • Andy Perdue

    Amen

  • Jack

    I’ve worked in various media for nearly 40 years (wire services, newspapers, magazines, online). Newspapers (and AP) missed the boat on the Internet, and advertisers finally have gotten wise to the fact that they were wasting money. Also, the vast majority of media members are more liberal than their readers, and often look down on them (the writer of this piece certainly does, failing to realize that those readers are customers, and those who look down on their customers are sure to lose them). But perhaps most important — I have five 20-something kids; none reads a paper, in print or online. Only rarely do they watch news on TV (think: Boston bombing). The audience for most newspapers and a lot of TV/cable news is fading fast.

    • Vince Lovato

      In my career, the nearer the big city I got, the more liberal the journalists were. It doesn’t matter until it takes over the newsroom where every story has a bias slant. We were supposed to be the neutralists who dug in and reported what we found regardless of the outcome. Now, metros are becoming like FOX and CNN doing as much commentary as fact checking. As you know, Jack, weeklies are having a boom because they have a niche that you can’t get on your smartphone every second of the day for free. I hope they can rescue our industry.

  • Jawaid Bazyar

    Why on earth would I ** pay money ** for something whose interior is 95% advertising?

    Why on earth are you still ** printing on paper ** ?

    There’s this thing called “the Internet”. You should look into it. Paper publications are a massive waste of money, and are what is dragging your operation down. Ink, paper, giant printing machines, what is the point?

    I can read news from 1000’s of newspapers all over the world online. I no longer have to accept the massively dumbed-down Denver Post version of a story – dumbed down *only* because of the cost of ink and paper.

    The business of newspapers isn’t paper – it’s news. The Internet is a vastly more efficient way of delivering the news, and is the one people want. Wake up. PLEASE give us something better online than “8 Ways to blah blah” or “10 things you didn’t know about rah rah”.

    • “The business of newspapers isn’t paper – it’s news. The Internet is a
      vastly more efficient way of delivering the news, and is the one people
      want. Wake up. PLEASE give us something better online than ‘8 Ways to
      blah blah’ or ’10 things you didn’t know about rah rah’.”

      The problem is, online media entities don’t want to pay people to create genuinely meaningful or important content like newspapers had to – they figure they can just wait until it’s already been created, then duplicate it with a byline and a link.

      If you’re lucky, they’ll offer, as payment, the /privilege/ of being an official feature on their site, telling you that have to “pay your dues” or some similarly-condescending, buck-passing excuse for their refusal to pay YOU.

      But content-creators still need larger media entities to get their work in front of people in the first place, because there’s too much junk for a potential audience to wade through before they’ll eventually find whatever it is one has produced, no matter how good it is, except by the dumbest of luck. That is neither an adequate way to go about rewarding hard work, creativity, and valuable, individual points of view, nor is it a sustainable model for a healthy fourth estate, or even media in general.

      • Vince Lovato

        Truth is, they can’t afford to pay them because online ads are very ineffective. No one wants to wade through pop-ups and click-throughs that pay for those journalists to do what they do. And, once you print a story with wide significance, all those trollers pick it up for free as a link.

    • Vince Lovato

      Sorry, but as a 34-year veteran, I’d love to toss the ink and paper but we make 9 times more on print ads than on internet ads. Until surfers are willing to pay for online delivery, this will continue to be a losing battle for readers and metros.

      • coryfrye

        I wouldn’t mind tossing them either — and I design those pages! Or, more accurately, I tell a bunch of people in another state what I want a page to look like. Yeah, a 25-year writing career is wheezing to an undignified end.

  • Vince Lovato

    And this column surmises what I’ve witnesses in the newsrooms of big metros over my career: A total lack of respect for the customer or potential customer and a great sense of self-importance. Community weeklies are thriving and enjoying a re-birth by doing what metros think is below them: Covering LOCAL news readers can’t get anywhere else. I’ve had many national exclusives over the decades by starting with a strange story in a small town and riding it to a national level. I have found that our industry is perhaps the only one that asks customers to change their habits instead of offering them something they really want.

    • coryfrye

      Here’s the problem in a nutshell: What the public at large claims it wants has nothing to do with what it ACTUALLY wants.

      • Paddie McGirk

        Yeah, you can’t trust the treacherous bastards.

        • Vince Lovato

          Actually, coryfyre is right. Poll after poll says they want features and good news. But big response always comes from crime, disaster, and finances.

          • Paddie McGirk

            Perhaps if people are fed parsnips they grow to like it.

  • moorelogic

    I’m reminded of the often used cliche… don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.

    Yes, online news sources seem to be the new trend, and are here to stay. But that certainly shouldn’t equate to throwing out the important role that the 4th estate is supposed to play in society: keeping citizens informed with objective news stories, and holding power accountable. The DP certainly has done its best to do the former, but I’m afraid I rarely see them engage in the latter. And I’m fairly certain this is because it’s tough to hold power accountable when they happen to be one of your major sources of income. Yes, power comes in more than one form: political and economic… and oftentimes they are intertwined.

    There will always be, and always has been, partisan smut masquerading as news in America. It isn’t going away. But, Mr. Perry is correct with his above assertion: we are screwed if we lose objective journalism, and the wonderful folks who are trying to adhere to this important role. So when I choose to throw metaphorical rocks at the DP… I am not aiming at the journalists or the important concept of objective journalism. I am aiming at a paper who should NOT be in the business of endorsing ANY politicians (at least not if they want to claim to be an objective new source.) I am aiming at a paper who seems to kowtow to power, rather than hold it accountable. And I am aiming at a business model that sets its journalists up to fail, or least constrains their efforts to hold power accountable.

    I certainly hope more than anything that what Mr. Perry describes can survive the rapidly changing world. We need a 4th estate more than ever… especially in an age of massively corrupted institutions. But I am sorry Mr. Perry… I will not rush to support the DP until I see some changes on their end first.

  • junkbondtrader41

    You arrogant, deluded, self-righteous, condescending, obnoxious dinosaur.

    Die slow, will ya? Figuratively and professionally speaking. We po’, benighted peasants who are just clueless as to how to even make a living and put our pants on without you telling us what’s important and what to think about it will be just fine, I promise!

    • Paddie McGirk

      Let it out, Man. It’s not good to stifle.

      • junkbondtrader41

        It’s just one of those moments where you say, dude, who the hell do you think you ARE? Without us your lives would be “poorer??”

    • coryfrye

      I don’t think you will.

    • ryan cordova

      You didn’t actually read the article did you? Just attached whatever tone you thought it had because you wanted a place to ramble, didn’t you?

      • junkbondtrader41

        Read every smug, preening word, dude. I know it’s inconceivable to you someone might not agree with this pr*ck, but here we are.

  • Tina

    I think the reason is all of the above. Shawn Miller makes the best point and Perry pretty much affirms it. Newspapers not only failed to master online business in the early days of the web, they failed to adjust and adapt while young entrepreneurs, millenials, dot coms and Ariana Huffington swooped in and did it right. The tone of this piece sums up the problem. As long as newspapers, their journalists, their editors have this “us vs the world” “you people just don’t get it” attitude, you will continue to isolate readers and never catch up in the race. Buzzfeed, HuffPo and the rest get down on everyone’s level and speak their language and it works. As long as traditional newspapers think their too good for that, their ships will continue to sink sink sink.

    • Thomas D

      What did the “millennial dot coms and Ariana Huffington” do “right,” exactly? They aren’t fielding armies of journalists out on the ground, doing the day-to-day work of news-gathering. They just aggregate the work of those who DO.

      And that was ultimately this writer’s point: So long as putting those journalists on the ground remains unprofitable in the internet age, the business of news-gathering is going to continue to wither away. And once it’s gone, the Huffington Posts of the world aren’t going to have any news for you, either.

      • Tina

        As I said, those organizations know how to get on the people’s level and deliver content that the everyman wants to see online, which translates into revenue online. Those sites place viral-ness and sharability over pulitzer-ability, which traditional papers think is beneath them. Until newspapers are willing to at least meet readers half-way on this, and remove their heads from you know where, they will face these challenges

        • ryan cordova

          “Those sites place viral-ness and sharability over pulitzer-ability, which traditional papers think is beneath them. Until newspapers are willing to at least meet readers half-way on this, and remove their heads from you know where, they will face these challenges”

          I’m glad someone is looking forward to the days of “7 Ways Your Local Politician Cleaned Up You Won’t Believe….” because I sure as hell aren’t.

          • Tina

            Hence why I said newspapers need to find a balance. “7 ways blah blah blah….” no, but a profile piece on the family of the local gang member murdered isn’t gonna make money….sorry….That’s the cold hard truth.

          • ryan cordova

            I’m not convinced it should be the job of the fourth estate to “make money” and that’s a symptom of a much bigger problem but hey, I’m also not a fan of letting corporations profit off the illnesses of sick individuals either.

            I guess that just makes me a Communist that I can see benefits to society rather than just that some guy in a fancy suit gets to go for the nicer of the two Jaguars he’s looking to buy.

  • Paddie McGirk

    Contrary to your cloaked allegations Mr. Perry the solid waste of Denver area newspapers does stink.

  • Bob Marley

    Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

  • Dantes

    What cheese goes best with this whine?

    • Frank2525

      Which ever one you like? You don’t have to remit anything for that advice.

  • 2jeffersonianideals1

    As a young man 11 or so years old I proudly delivered the Denver Post you a few select customers in my small South Dakota home town. It was only later that I realized what a progressive piece of fish wrap it was. I’m sorry I ever delivered it. Last time I read the DP was truly awful. Biased, sick and twisted with no connection to rational thought or reality. It can go away as far as I am concerned and as for those unfortunates being laid off? Now would be a good time for them to examine their biased world view. And stop calling me stupid. We disagree. That does not make me stupid. Calling me stupid makes you incapable of persuasion which means you are ar least smart enough to recognize the weakness of your argument.

    • Frank2525

      Great comment. Could not agree with you more. They used to be a news worthy paper, but that was before they started writing for downtown Denver political party.

  • Nyota Uhura

    Hahahahahahaha!!!! You freakin’ losers 😉

    As a conservative journalist, I’d like to thank you * for ruining the field of actual facts, for such as me. Believe it or not, we conservatives have always been about the truth.

    Now that you’ve ruined the field for us, I hope you enjoy the new environment, where no one believes anything, because YOU have destroyed the actual truth.

    Suck it.

    • TheSlag

      “we conservatives have always been about the truth” hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. You are hilarious. That’s the thickest line of bovine fecal matter ever spread about…hahahahaha

  • Alexander Rawls

    Domination of the press by Democratic Party operatives like like Perry are how we got a racist, communist, Islamofascist for president. They systematically suppress all of the most important information in the service of their own political side, to the point of blinding themselves almost as much as they blind the nation. Good riddance to evil trash.

    A sample of Perry’s constant hatred for the the populace of Colorado as it actually exists, where he subtitles one of his columns: “I’m talking about the real terrorist threat here in America: the National Rifle Association” Why are newspapers like the Denver Post and the Aurora Sentinel important in Perry’s eyes? So the he can CHANGE Colorado away from the actual values of Coloradans which he despises with an insane and utterly ignorant contempt.

    Truly a sick individual. Like our left-wing dominated academia, the current press needs to disappear before the country can get back on the path to prosperity and national security.

    • Paul Cheramie

      My gosh, you are a deranged individual. In my state the NRA just derailed legislation that would have protected women in abusive relationships by not allowing criminals to buy a gun. Im talking about convicted criminals. But to the NRA, they’re more important than the women they threaten and beat. So yeah, terrorist sounds pretty accurate. And I own guns and hunt and all that other stuff, but I have never been an NRA member or supporter, because they are not representative of my values. Racist, communist, islamofascist? I would laugh if it weren’t so sad.

      • Hermann Munster

        Sockpuppet much?

        • Paul Cheramie

          Very mature.

      • Alexander Rawls

        Guy who agrees that NRA members are the “real” terrorists calls me deranged. Leftists are truly sick.

        • Paul Cheramie

          I didn’t say members, I didn’t generalize. I spoke directly to an issue in Louisiana and the role the NRA leadership and organization lobbyists played and how that was indicitive of what they have been doing for years. You avoided the point of my comment and took it personally. Sorry you don’t comprehend English.

        • ryan cordova

          Guy who refers to anyone who disagrees with him on ANY issue as “sick,” “deranged,” and “evil trash” thinks he has a right to judge someone else?

          Conservatives truly are insane.

    • ryan cordova

      “So the he can CHANGE Colorado away from the actual values of Coloradans which he despises with an insane and utterly ignorant contempt.”

      As opposed to the NRA themselves changing the actual meaning of the Constitution so that “the right for a private militia to bear arms” becomes simply “the right to bear arms.”

      But hey, you’re only going to complain about people changing the laws against established precedent when it’s the guys you don’t agree with doing it.

      • cosmicharlie1970 .

        Heh. YOu make up a quote and say it’s a Constitutional amendment, then you quote the actual amendment and say it’s not true.

        Typical leftist with no concern for rule of law.

    • ryan cordova

      “Truly a sick individual. Like our left-wing dominated academia, the current press needs to disappear before the country can get back on the path to prosperity and national security.”

      Someone forget that 9/11 happened under their preferred “Strong on national security!” candidate?

      Oh and that whole economic crash sure did help out the prosperity of the nation didn’t it.

      Republicans, so stuck on their ideology that they can’t even objectively look at what happened less than ten years ago.

  • Nate Whilk

    If you media did your job well as you yourselves claim, using those layers of editors and fact-checkers that you boast of, and did so impartially, you’d be in a much better position today. But you’ve hidden relevant facts about Barack Obama; and when Dan Rather went with that faked George W. Bush memo that his own experts said they could not authenticate, you circled the wagons.

    Take your arrogant bluster and go jump in the lake.

    We understand. As have many before us.

    “Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle.” –Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Norvell (June 11, 1807)

    Knoll’s Law of Media Accuracy: Everything you read in the newspapers is absolutely true except for the rare story of which you happen to have firsthand knowledge. –Erwin Knoll, editor, “The Progressive”

    “The fat Russian agent was cornering all the foreign refugees in turn and explaining plausibly that this whole affair was an Anarchist plot. I watched him with some interest, for it was the first time that I had seen a person whose profession was telling lies—unless one counts journalists.” –George Orwell, “Homage to Catalonia” (1938)

    “Early in life I have noticed that no event is ever correctly reported in a newspaper, but in Spain, for the first time, I saw newspaper reports which did not bear any relation to the facts, not even the relationship which is implied in an ordinary lie…I saw troops who had fought bravely denounced as cowards and traitors, and others who had never seen a shot fired hailed as the heroes of imaginary victories; and I saw newspapers in London retailing these lies and eager intellectuals building emotional superstructures over events that had never happened. I saw, in fact, history being written not in terms of what happened but of what ought to have happened according to various ‘party lines’.” –George Orwell, “Looking Back on the Spanish War” (1943)

    “The man is a humbug — a vulgar, shallow, self-satisfied mind, absolutely inaccessible to the complexities and delicacies of the real world. He has the journalist’s air of being a specialist in everything, of taking in all points of view and being always on the side of the angels: he merely annoys a reader who has the least experience of knowing things, of what knowing is like. There is not two pence worth of real thought or real nobility in him.” —C.S. Lewis, diary, July 1924

  • VictorErimita

    Indeed. How will we ever create an enlightened society without legions of J-school graduates who have never invented, created or built anything, or created a job for someone else, and who are experts on everything from economics, the military, foreign affairs, local government, culture…a different subject every day, who have a few hours to learn about each subject they write about before moving on to the next, and who come to the task laden with (almost exclusively one) ideology and a change-the-world complex?

    Anyone who has ever read or seen a “news” media story about themselves or any event or topic they know anything about, knows how abysmally poorly the media does its job, whether through intention or incompetence. The days when you people are our arbiters of truth, justice and the American Way, so to speak, are waning fast, Mr. Perry. We’ll try to stumble through without you, thanks.

    • Paul Cheramie

      I guess you never heard that reporters have beats, that they specialize, that they often work in an industry that they go on to report on. But yeah, go on an generalize based on anecdotal data. There are always some that are better at their jobs than others, and that is true of journalism too.

      • Hermann Munster

        On more than one occasion I’ve been interviewed by a reporter and then read or listened to the resulting story, only to find that the reporter had garbled what I’d said so badly that it was incomprehensible. I know people who refuse to speak to reporters on general principal, just because they don’t want their name attached to quotes or ideas that will make them sound like a blithering idiot.

      • VictorErimita

        That was never true with small papers. It used to be true for larger ones. The New York Times used to have an entire staff of busness reporters, for example, educated in busness and experienced enough to report knowledgeably. That has not been the case for some time. Now they they rotate frequently. Too frequently to learn much about anything. I guess you haven’t heard about that.

        • Paul Cheramie

          Well, it was true on the small papers I worked on. I never worked on a large metro daily, but have friends that did and still do. The industry has changed, but here in Louisiana at least, there are still beat reporters and men and women who are experts at their assigned areas of reporting. I can tell many stories about people I interviewed who changed their minds about what they said after they saw it in print. I also have made errors – and corrected them later – that’s a truth no matter what your profession. But one of the things I have noticed as the industry moves to digital content and focus – a lack of in depth reporting, more grammatical and typographic errors, and topics driven by clicks, not importance. Saying, “it doesn’t affect me, so why should I pay to read it?” demonstrates a breathtaking lack of interest, humanity, and common sense.

          • ryecatcher

            Well said Paul. I think some of the negative comments on this article demonstrate a lack of common sense and a “breathtaking” conservative bias toward the media in general.

      • Please, we’re talking about the same journ0list class that call Glocks “assault weapons”, claim the Constitution bans “hate speech”, and assumed Rand Paul’s name comes from Ayn Rand. These examples were all from national journ0list figures. The journ0 class has become the equivalent of a beached inbred whale, full of cretins, almost all leftist, that have no idea about anything.

        • ryecatcher

          Speaking of “beached whales and cretins”, this comment fits the bill nicely from a commenter who has “no idea about anything”.

          Taking offense with someone for calling “Glocks assault weapons” is certainly crucial to the debate. smiley should know. He/she is no doubt an inbred “Constitutional scholar”. Snore!

        • ryan cordova

          “The journ0 class has become the equivalent of a beached inbred whale, full of cretins, almost all leftist, that have no idea about anything.”

          Hmm, a large group of people who spend their lives learning the facts of a situation almost always tend to gravitate towards liberal thoughts…

          I wonder why that is….

    • ryecatcher

      It’s a certainty your ilk will “stumble on” as you always have and always will.

      Your stereotypical antiquated claims about President Obama never “inventing anything or building anything” keep coming up ad nauseam along with “Benghazi, the emails, the IRS and other dated republican pipe dreams”.

      In my opinion, Mr Perry is right on the money. We’ll all lose if the Post dies.

      • VictorErimita

        Well what did Obama ever do? Actually do? Nothing. Yet somehow he knows how multi-nillion dollar corporations, multi-trillion dollar economies, international relations and nearly everything else should be done. How is that, do you suppose? He’s too smart to listen to advice. He mostly doesn’t meet with his cabinet, attend national security briefings, listen to anyone in Congress or much of anywhere else. He’s smarter and more onowledgeable about everything than anyone else? Despite having never done anything except say things. He’s great at that?

        Hw could such an arrogant, inexperienced ignoramus ever be elected? Because of your “ilk.” Gullible, partisan twits to whom no lie, no crime, no demonstration of serial incompetence could ever shake your faith in anyone with a “D” after their name. And before you accuse me of the same, no I didn’t think Bush was fit for the job, and no I don’t support Republican candidates who just say things without a record of achievement either.

        As for the “dated” claim, are criticisms of Bush’s failures in Iraq dated? Have you “moved on” from those? The “dated” defense is just a childishly transparent move leftists make to avoid ever admitting failure or facing criticism.

        • ryecatcher

          You must be a White House insider to know the Presidents management style so intimately. I doubt it seriously however and your summation of the President’s arrogance and inexperience is amusing to say the least.

          We’ll simply pass on the “ignoramus” label and consider the source of the comment.

          This rant like the one previous, is nothing more than your personal opinion but imaginary to say the least. I’ll give you an A+ for noise.

          “Gullible twits”? I’ll simply chalk that one up to childish transparency. Careful now. We wouldn’t want you to “wane” too fast.

          Have a nice day.

          • VictorErimita

            I’m not a White House insider. But there have been dozens of actual insiders, Cabinet members and members of the press who have pretty much uniformly described Obama’s management style as aloof, disengaged and disinterested in advice or input from pretty much everyone except perhaps Ms. Jarrett. Have you seen none of these accounts over the last six years? Or are they all “rants” to be breezily dismissed? If true, how is it that a man with zero experience needs no input from people with plenty of it?

            Do you recall the State Department spokesperson who, when asked why Obama doesn’t attend his national security and intelligence briefings, replied that he doesn’t need to because he is “one of the most sophisticated consumers of intelligence on the planet?” Did you wonder how he might have acquired such shistication? An adjunct lecturer and community activist? No, you aren’t curious about that sort of thing, are you? Your guy doesn’t need no stinkin’ input from grownups with experience. Kind of like Holden Caufield, huh?

          • ryecatcher

            Congratulations. You made the “Holden” connection. Hopefully you feel better now that you’ve shown us how informed you are.

            “Things’ that arouse my curiosity are my concern, not yours. You’re concern is touching however.

            Every President manages in a style comfortable to him or her as we’ll soon see. Hillary must have your glands atwitter, huh?

            Does the saying “blah blah blah” ring your bell? It should. You’re quite capable.

            Don’t give yourself an ulcer worrying about the President’s management style. There is nothing you can do about it other than whine.

            Anything else? If not, toddle ooh.

  • jhepp

    When “advocacy journalism” (predominately liberal advocacy) became the rule rather than the exception, you lost me.

  • Dave Perry wrote: “1: Is it accurate? No. 2: Is it fair? No.”

    I wonder if Mr. Perry understands that can be read two ways…

    I’ll tell you what, Mr. Perry: When you fill your paper with trivial stories, you are wasting my finite news gathering time. When I have to wade through junk “news” about events which, no matter how sad they may be for affected people, do not affect more than a couple dozen people, you have wasted my time, and my money.

    At that most basic level, it does not matter if you trend liberal or conservative: You waste my time with junk stories. You do not provide serious coverage about important issues such as what a proposed legislative bill actually says. You tell me that so-and-so is maneuvering to do blank so that she can do whatever. Tell me what the bloody bill actually says.

    Fill your paper with important stories and I might read. Fill it with feel good/feel bad junk I’ll go elsewhere.

  • nospamformo

    The market does not value the product they are putting out. It’s really just that simple. And all of the hand-wringing and chest pounding and ridiculous statements that the area’s well-being depends on the current press incumbents just goes to show how poor your product really is.

  • holygoat

    The fact that your industry is dying is proof that our lives are not poorer without you. Your jobs are being *replaced*, not eliminated, and no amount of sanctimonious lecturing on your part is going to change that. It will, however, provide the rest of us with plenty of schadenfreude. Watching your fetid, ivory-choked dynasty crumble in slow motion is glorious.

    • Thomas D

      Replaced by whom? Where is this new breed of reporters out in the field gathering raw information, shaping it into a digestible form called “news,” and distributing it to you?

      • holygoat

        They are online, some paid, some not. If anything, the internet has proven that what journalists do is not nearly as difficult as they have always insisted it is.

  • Alex Miller

    Nice piece. The other point I’d make is that even if you don’t read the journalism, the reporters covering all those meetings, agencies, etc. are doing you a service by keeping the powerful (somewhat) in check. When no one’s covering them, they run wild — they always do.

    • holygoat

      Reporters are still doing that (so long as the powerful person is right of center). It’s just that they are increasingly doing it for outlets that don’t use paper and ink.

      This is classic buggy-whip-industry stuff going on.

      • Alex Miller

        Some paid, digital journos may exist in metro areas, but not in small towns and most suburbs. Rare is the unpaid blogger who’s going to sit through a school board meeting.

        • holygoat

          Denver qualifies as a “metro area,” no?

        • coryfrye

          Those who do typically have an axe to grind.

      • Thomas D

        “It’s just that they are increasingly doing it for outlets that don’t use paper and ink.”

        You do realize that those “paper and ink” organizations are also online, in a very big way? And if they can’t make the whole thing work — with their institutional clout, experienced staffs, big newsroom budgets, etc. — then who can?

        • holygoat

          They are being displaced by people willing to do it for less because they are unencumbered by the over inflated sense of self worth and entitlement present in “experienced” journalists of big newsrooms.” Also, they are willing to follow stories that “experienced journalists in big newsrooms” are not — specifically, stories that harm political leftists.

          Sorry man, but the idea that newspaper journalists possess some great skill that is out of the reach of the average person is a myth. They don’t. Their historical positions of importance were erected and protected by the guild that the large media outlets were able to create due to the high costs of entry into the medium. The internet destroyed those costs, making big budgets worth less.

          Anybody with basic language skills and an eye on the world can be a journalist now, and they are proving that what “experienced journalists in big newsrooms” have been doing for years is far less remarkable than they have lead us believe.

          Watching these arrogant, self-centered anachronisms die a slow and painful death is inspiring to watch. I especially love the cries of “But we are so valuable! How can you let us go?! YOU WILL REGRET THIS!” Nah. We have assessed your worth and found it lacking. But do keep telling your customers how stupid they are. That’s definitely a great long-tern strategy.

  • s_c_f

    Somebody can’t handle the truth.

  • drakejr

    I hope you die last. You will die after all, it is in your nature. But it is the nature of your brethren as well. Each will die a slow and deserved death, each knowing what is coming and the inevitability of it all. But eventually, they are freed by their demise. So I want you to die last, so that when the time comes, your particular uselessness will be unable to fill some other meaningless void. You won’t be making listicacles for Buzzfeed or “hot takes” for Salon, no, those positions will have been taken by other hacks, neither more or less talented than you, but given the good fortune of slipping away from their dying industry just a bit sooner than you.

  • This is like the greatest thing ever written. It needs to be etched in its entirety onto the metaphorical tombstone for MSM journ0lism using nothing less than diamond cutting lasers. This masterpiece perfectly encapsulates everything the Main Scheme Media journ0 class is: haughty, delusional, elitist, outright moronic, and nowadays panicky as the wages of hubris finally come calling.

  • doubting_rich

    If you want to know why newspapers are dying then look up Murray Gell-Mann amnesia, and realise that the internet is the cure.

    Yes, I am calling you out (I live nowhere near Colorado, so nothing personal, but by this article you include yourself with the media I do know) as utterly clueless on every subject you write about. I would exclude journalism itself from that statement, except for this article.

    I have attended a very prominent university. I have worked for two newsworthy institutions. I work as a consultant in an industry that has more than its share of news coverage. I have even worked for a large company when the office downstairs happened to hit the national press for a minor scandal. All this means that there have been dozens of occasions on which I have known enough to judge the veracity and quality of stories in the news media, and not once has any been well-informed.

    In every case where I read a story in a newspaper or see it discussed on television news, hear it on the radio they have important facts wrong or are using the facts to give a totally misleading impression. In every case people who don’t know the real story were being misinformed by the news media.

    People can now find the facts, they can read expert opinions, they have found out that the media is wrong not only in their field but in everything they talk about.

  • texlovera

    Mr. Perry:

    Blow it out your barracks bag.

    Sincerely,
    The Public

    PS-

    Most of you really don’t have a clue what’s happened.

    AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

  • JamesB

    What most of you really don’t realize is that the Denver Post is not a single thing, but a sum of its parts. And it’s made up of some of the most ethical, talented, hard-working and determined journalists in the business. THEY are the Denver Post, and they’re liberal, conservative, none and all of the above.

    Go ahead and make the “we’re human beings dammit” argument, like every other dying industry on its way down. The problem isn’t your people, or your political leanings, it’s your business model. Bland local news printed on dead trees is done. Your people will move on, either to a job where they reuse most of their current skills or they will learn new skills. The change that’s coming wasn’t entirely your fault, it wasn’t even mostly your fault. But you failed to anticipate it and get ahead of it.
    When the kids you guys hire come to my house to ask if I want a subscription, I feel bad for them. It’s a shame that such a young person doesn’t realize the futility of what they’re doing. But not bad enough that I buy a subscription.
    Innovate or die. The rest of us out here in the real world have been dealing with this for decades. Welcome to the party.

  • Brian Burton

    Dave Perry — thank you for your impassioned and brilliant rant. You are 100-per-cent on the mark. Democracy owes as much to journalists as it does to the armies pledged to defend it. More, I would argue. As for junkbond weenie and the rest of the twitter junkies who’ve managed to reach an alleged adulthood relying on ET for their news, is it any wonder our society is becoming so fragmented and dysfunctional? Yates described the world they think will be so cool — in a piece called The Second Coming.

  • John Williams

    What a bunch of hogwash. The only thing “journalists” see as a threat to society are people who put an (R) after their name–and that’s half the country, whether you idiots care to admit it or not. Your hubris, your politics, and your bias (lack of professionalism) are what have damned you to a slow death–nothing else. Nobody believes you anymore. Even the left knows they can’t get a straight story from you (though they LOVE your lefty bent). Try reporting news again–investigate somebody besides people who don’t agree with you politically. Until you’re willing to do that, nobody should trust you or your rags.

  • Mcs Vette

    Its just market forces at work. You smart guys can dice it all you want.. but it appears liberal biased product(news) is not as popular as it may have been at one time…. oh.. 60’s..